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------------6DA9175615CE0 ------------B9911F3489B1 Friends, Sorry for the "> >" junk. I've had some problems posting this. Here are my thoughts on the vibrato subject, courtesy of a couple of forwarded messages from Nigel. > > Happy New Year to one and all, and Greetings from Canada! > > > > I simply couldn't resist adding my 2 to this discussion. > > > > One of my very good friends (a fellow euphonium player) and I have > > had this same discussion on the use and abuse of vibrato. > > > > My conviction is that there are several good reasons to use vibrato > > in performing with brass bands. (One of my most traumatic > > experiences as a child was having my fellow S.A. Junior bandsmen > > mock my immature use of vibrato. I was scarred for life, learned to > > use it properly and took on an active role in the promotion of this > > useful and expressive instrumental tool.) > > > > On an instrument such as a euphonium, or most any wind or brass > > instrument for that matter, in addition to helping to create a warm, > > pleasant sound a sensible vibrato will help to centre the pitch of > > the note played. > > > > Also, although I have no empirical data to support this, it is my > > experience that using a proper vibrato (that is, one that is not > > produced by controlling air with the throat) tends to increase > > stamina. Anyone else have this experience? > > > > Further, one need only examine the realm of non-brass band musical > > expression to find countless examples (good, bad and ugly!) of > > vibrato. It seems that the only real exception to the 'rule' is > > orchestral brass! Does anyone else see a pattern here? Even as > > recently as last year, I heard rumours that Philip Smith himself has > > suspiciously been an advocate of orchestral-brass vibrato in certain > > instances! > > > > My friend believes that the use of 'excessive' vibrato in brass > > bands is leaning towards poor taste. In his view, the likely > > progression in banding will tend to favour less use of vibrato in > > the future, although this impression is most probably based on the > > facts that he listens most often to orchestral works, that he > > doesn't listen to brass bands with any regularity and that when he > > DOES listen to brass bands they are of the North American style. > > > > Nohstanding the above tirade, we must certainly acknowledge that > > when the music dictates a particular style, we must consider that to > > use vibrato or not may enhance the meaning and perception of the > > music. My experience is that there are as many band members who > > cannot use a good vibrato as there are who cannot "turn it off". > > Flexibility is the key! > > > > Robert Miller > > Euphonium, Intrada Brass > > rmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > rmiller@xxxxxxxx > > > > P.S. Does anyone else think that "The Great Vibrato" would make a > > fine name for a magician as opposed to a musician? ------------B9911F3489B1 ------------B9911F3489B1-- ------------6DA9175615CE0 Return-Path: <rmiller_1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> via sendmail with esmtp id <m0vjmbf-000A5DC@xxxxxxxx> for <rmiller@xxxxxxxx>; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:39:19 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built 1996-Jul-10) Comments: Authenticated sender is <rmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> From: "Robert Miller" <rmiller_1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Organization: The Salvation Army To: rmiller@xxxxxxxx Date:Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:38:37 -0500 Subject: (Fwd) The Great Vibrato Debate (fwd) Priority: normal Message-Id: <97Jan13.083722est.5888@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:57:52 -0500 From: njh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Nigel Horne) Reply-to: njh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: rmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: The Great Vibrato Debate (fwd) This item failed to be posted because you sent it as rmiller_1@xxxxxxxxxxxx, whereas you subscribed as rmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I will leave it in my pending queue until I hear from you what you want me to do with it. In the meantime here is the file including the headers: Forwarded message follows: > From rmiller_1@xxxxxxxxxxxx Mon Jan 06 23:19:56 1997 > Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net by smsltd.demon.co.uk with > SMTP id AA3493 ; Mon, 06 Jan 97 23:19:54 GMT Received: from > relay-6.mail.demon.net by mailstore > for brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx id 852565234:6:03716:5; > Mon, 06 Jan 97 15:40:34 GMT > Received: from NS.SALLYNET.ORG ([199.85.29.7]) by > relay-5.mail.demon.net > id aa522955; 6 Jan 97 15:40 GMT > Received: by moses.sallynet.org id <5890>; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:38:26 > -0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is > <rmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> From: "Robert Miller" > <rmiller_1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Organization: The Salvation Army To: > brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date:Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:40:13 -0500 > Subject: The Great Vibrato Debate Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus > Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Message-Id: > <97Jan6.103826est.5890@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Status: R > > Happy New Year to one and all, and Greetings from Canada! > > I simply couldn't resist adding my 2c to this discussion. > > One of my very good friends (a fellow euphonium player) and I have > had this same discussion on the use and abuse of vibrato. > > My conviction is that there are several good reasons to use vibrato > in performing with brass bands. (One of my most traumatic > experiences as a child was having my fellow S.A. Junior bandsmen > mock my immature use of vibrato. I was scarred for life, learned to > use it properly and took on an active role in the promotion of this > useful and expressive instrumental tool.) > > On an instrument such as a euphonium, or most any wind or brass > instrument for that matter, in addition to helping to create a warm, > pleasant sound a sensible vibrato will help to centre the pitch of > the note played. > > Also, although I have no empirical data to support this, it is my > experience that using a proper vibrato (that is, one that is not > produced by controlling air with the throat) tends to increase > stamina. Anyone else have this experience? > > Further, one need only examine the realm of non-brass band musical > expression to find countless examples (good, bad and ugly!) of > vibrato. It seems that the only real exception to the 'rule' is > orchestral brass! Does anyone else see a pattern here? Even as > recently as last year, I heard rumours that Philip Smith himself has > suspiciously been an advocate of orchestral-brass vibrato in certain > instances! > > My friend believes that the use of 'excessive' vibrato in brass > bands is leaning towards poor taste. In his view, the likely > progression in banding will tend to favour less use of vibrato in > the future, although this impression is most probably based on the > facts that he listens most often to orchestral works, that he > doesn't listen to brass bands with any regularity and that when he > DOES listen to brass bands they are of the North American style. > > Nohstanding the above tirade, we must certainly acknowledge that > when the music dictates a particular style, we must consider that to > use vibrato or not may enhance the meaning and perception of the > music. My experience is that there are as many band members who > cannot use a good vibrato as there are who cannot "turn it off". > Flexibility is the key! > > Robert Miller > Euphonium, Intrada Brass > rmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx > rmiller@xxxxxxxx > > P.S. Does anyone else think that "The Great Vibrato" would make a > fine name for a magician as opposed to a musician? > > -- Nigel Horne, Wharfedale Computers Ltd. Internet: njh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fidonet: Nigel Horne @ 2:253/417.49; Packet: G0LOV@GB7SYP.#19.GBR.EDU; http://www.smsltd.demon.co.uk. Phone: +44-1226-283021. 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