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RE: Baritone/Baritone

If I may pick a nit, here...

I believe it more correct to refer to the Eb "Soprano" cornet as "Sopranino" 
or high soprano.  The Bb cornet should be soprano, and the "Alto" would be a 
cornet in low F or Eb.  Bass Cornet, if such a thing were built, would be in 
low Bb, as is a trombone.  This classification would then coincide with 
orchestral trumpet nomenclature.  

One might make a case for the "tenor horns" to be equivalent to the "Alto 
cornet" and the Bb Euphonium, equivalent to  the "Bass Bb cornet", and Tuba 
would be the "contrabass cornet" in Eb or Bb.

I suppose a Bb "soprano" cornet, in my nomenclature, might be considered a 
"piccolo Euphonium".

As for the alto trombone, it is usually in Eb, in the same octave as a tenor 
horn, while a tenor trombone, the standard trombone, is in the same octave as 
the Bb Euphonium, and a soprano trombone is a slide trumpet.

Wierd, huh?

Comments and such invited...


Guy Clark
guyclark@xxxxxxx



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From: Alastair Wheeler
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 1997 5:40 PM
To: brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Baritone/Baritone

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Trond Otto Berg wrote:

<snip>
> saxofones), I think that the German/Norwegian naming-tradition is the
> most corect, historicaly speaking.  (elsewhere the brassband is the only
> place without any alto-instument).  
> 
> While using the German/Norwegian tradition we got the choir-setup of
> SATB (cornet, Eb Alto-horn, Bb Tenor-horn, C Euphonium)  (The trombone
> and the Tubas are then additional parts) But, due to the arranging
> tradition in the brassbands the euph are not playing the bass-role, but
> a "pavarotti"-role, and the tubas are the bass instruments.  On this
> background we can say that the english naming-tradition is corect, but
> WHERE ARE THE ALTOS?   

i) In a band with 10 cornets, it would be silly to have them all on the 
soprano (treble would be a better term here) part (in 4 part harmony)  
Normally the alto part is taken by the higher 1/2 horns, 1st trombone, 
back row cornets (perhaps not rep) and possibly flugel

ii) Consider the soprano Eb cornet, a Bb cornet is effectivly an alto 
cornet (nothing to do with alto trombones here!) so a Flugel is an alto 
horn in this scheme of things.

> 
> -- 
>   Trond  Otto Berg
>   Principal
>   Stranda Music School, Norway

-- 
  Alastair Wheeler
  Euphonium, Bass Trombone
  Alastair.Wheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxx   http://users.ox.ac.uk/~newc0349/
  "I am following my fish"


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