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Re: Necessity of a 4th trombone, also baritone scoring

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Subject: Re: Necessity of a 4th trombone, also baritone scoring
From: "brassman" <brassman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 20:41:56 -0400
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> From: Adrian Drover <saxhorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Necessity of a 4th trombone, also baritone scoring
> Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 5:38 AM
> 
Adrian......
I think you have a new student on your hands... be sure and send a bill, 
but learn to spell his name..... It's Alastair.......right Alastair?  (just
kidding with you Adrian)
Sorry I haven't answered your private note... I will do that very soon.

I agree with you about that 4th note in the trombones.  I most always put
in into the first baritone... in fact, over here in the US, many baritone
players (if not most) are trombone players and I actually have asked them
to shift instruments and pick up a trombone.  I have even labeled it valve
trombone for those that are not familiar with a slide.  So far I have not
seen anyone do it but I figure it's worth a try.  Bobby Brookmeyer is not
playing in any brass bands that I know of.

Sometimes as you say, you must treat the trombones as a trio to get that
section sound and then place the euphonium on the bottom note with these
words..NO VIBRATO PLEASE.  This is usually when it's inconvenint for the
1st baritone to help.
Some times I prefer the 1st baritone to play the bottom rather than to be
sandwiched 
between 1st and 2nd or 2nd and 3rd.  I also steer away from the bass
trombone on the 5th... As a bass trombone player I know how that feels.  I
have even left the 5th out entirely if I had to.  Eb Tuba (bass-sorry) is a
good option depending on the cord.
I arranged "Holiday for Trombones" (David Rose) and I had wished for a 4th
trombone as I wrote every measure. It still works........

Wow !  We are all starting to agree..... this is no fun.......Please
disagree with me..

Alastair...... A - L - A - S -T - A - I - R...........see I'm trying to
help Alistair..."  :) "

Mark Freeh (NYC)
> 

> > (+)  Do any other bass trombonists out there dislike playing the 5th
> > above the bass in the low register?  I always find it hard to balance,
> > and don't like the way the tone is supported only by the basses.  I'd
> > rather swap with an Eb, then you get more of a ring to the sound...
just
> > don't like the scoring, I suppose.
> 
> I'm sure that every bass 'bonist would rather play the bass note (root)
in
> preference to the 5th. When the low 5th is required, dividing the tubas
> works well, though more weight should be given to the root, ie, a 1-3
> divisi is better than 2-2. The 2nd euph is also useful for supplying the
> low 5th.
> 
> Hey Alistair, I think we are beginning to agree on more things now. This
> won't do. Disagreement is much more fun ;-)
> 
> Adrian
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