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Re: Computer rankings

To: brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Computer rankings
From: Peter Younghusband <monkey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:43:29 +0800
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References: <355F67AF.85EE0AE8@aickin.com.au> <355FF6A9.26DFEBB2@kisser.net.au> <3560B9A2.1E2D6B35@aickin.com.au>
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Glenn McGowan wrote:

> COMPUTER RANKING FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED
>
> .................No doubt people will criticise this article by saying that I have
> not suggested a
> better ranking system.  One might dabble with weighting certain contests, like the
> nationals.  But then one gets into rather more subjective problems of how to
> weight.  That is, I dont think a good ranking system can be created for amateur
> Australian bands.

As you probably know, the UK contests are all weighted but I don't know the ins and
outs exactly.

> The conclusion I draw is that the ranking system is completely useless in
> indicating the comparative strengths of bands at any one time and I propose in the
> future to completely ignore the rankings.  Most people in England ignore the
> English rankings

I beg to differ - IMHO everybody is quite interested.

> and they have a better basis for being accurate than the
> Australian rankings do.  The tyranny of distance does not operate to the same
> extent in England as it does in Australia.

Agreed.

Monkey


> Perhaps the only conclusion therefore which can be drawn is that a band is only as
> good as its last performance.
>
> GLENN MCGOWAN
>
> Peter Younghusband wrote:
>
> > Are the rankings not based over three years like England Glenn? What did Kew do
> > during the other two years if so?
> >
> > Monkey
> >
> > Glenn McGowan wrote:
> >
> > > Kew Band (Australia) has won the Bendigo A grade competition by 13
> > > points, pushing Hawthorn into second place.  This means Kew has won
> > > every competition it has competed in for the last 12 months (4
> > > contests).  Yet it is only ranked in the band 'computer' rankings as
> > > 4th.  This nothwithstanding a convincing win at the nationals.  Computer
> > > ranking seem a little irrelevant don't they?
> > > Glenn McGowan
> > > Principal cornet
> > > Kew Band
> > > mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
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References:
- Bendigo comps
  - From: Glenn McGowan
- Re: Bendigo comps
  - From: Peter Younghusband
- Re: Computer rankings
  - From: Glenn McGowan

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