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Re: Cambridge - 'right bands in the wrong order ?'

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Subject: Re: Cambridge - 'right bands in the wrong order ?'
From: "kraken" <kraken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 00:24:38 +0100
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Jeremy

Just wondered if you read the complete mail that  you reply to? ;)

Nige Beasley

>> Why Jeremy??  Don't we always claim to have daft results?
>
>The reason I believe it is daft is that there has to be some reward for
>good playing, irrespective of opinions about interpretation, dynamics,
>tempo etc. When a band performs a piece accurately with good soloists, few
>or no split notes mispitches etc thay have to be rewarded in some way. YBS
>did this and yet were placed 13th yet Brand put bands in the frame who had
>poor soloists, one of them nearly stopped, and where there were obvious
>mistakes, poor intonation etc. The same happened with Dyke at the Open on
>Severn Suite.
>
>I agree with Frank Rentons article, the job of the adjudicator is to select
>the best performance on the day, not look for the one closest to how they
>would have done it. Musicality is one aspect and should of course be taken
>into account but the quality of the playing, detail, band sound, intonation
>and accuracy must be a starting point, not interpretation.
>
>There is an adjudication in the Cory bandroom from the 1950's which says "
>you clearly have no idea of the composers intentions". The piece in
>question was by Eric Ball and the band had been conducted by the composer
>on the day.
>
>There also cannot be the amount of disagreement shown by the placings of
>Ransomes 1st and next to last. This is ludicrous by anybody's standards.
>There are a number of adjudicators who are reknowned for their odd
>adjudications and one of them was in action this week end. Guess who? I
>agree that the basis of the Swiss system is better but removing the top and
>bottom positions and aggregating the middle three removes the exterme
>reactions. I was not attached to any band and my comments are entirely
>impartial.
>
>PS I would be pleased to know your name.
>
>Jeremy
>
> That is what
>> happens if you have contests.  The winners think its great and most
>others
>> think the judges are stupid and they could do better.
>>
>> I may be on my own on this but I think it is a far better system..we know
>> what each judge thinks about each performance.
>>
>> I agree that there were some very unexpected placings ( YBS being one of
>> them) but have you spoken to Geoffrey Brand?  He must have found
>something
>> offensive with the performance.  I'm not saying that I agree with him but
>he
>> was paid to give his opinion and that is the one that gives the result.
>>
>> Nige Beasley
>>
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