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Re: Cambridge - 'right bands in the wrong order ?'

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> From: kraken <kraken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Cambridge - 'right bands in the wrong order ?'
> Date: 26 May 1998 00:24
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> Just wondered if you read the complete mail that  you reply to? ;)
> Sent the reply before I spotted it. Sorry.

Jeremy

> Nige Beasley
> 
> >> Why Jeremy??  Don't we always claim to have daft results?
> >
> >The reason I believe it is daft is that there has to be some reward for
> >good playing, irrespective of opinions about interpretation, dynamics,
> >tempo etc. When a band performs a piece accurately with good soloists,
few
> >or no split notes mispitches etc thay have to be rewarded in some way.
YBS
> >did this and yet were placed 13th yet Brand put bands in the frame who
had
> >poor soloists, one of them nearly stopped, and where there were obvious
> >mistakes, poor intonation etc. The same happened with Dyke at the Open
on
> >Severn Suite.
> >
> >I agree with Frank Rentons article, the job of the adjudicator is to
select
> >the best performance on the day, not look for the one closest to how
they
> >would have done it. Musicality is one aspect and should of course be
taken
> >into account but the quality of the playing, detail, band sound,
intonation
> >and accuracy must be a starting point, not interpretation.
> >
> >There is an adjudication in the Cory bandroom from the 1950's which says
"
> >you clearly have no idea of the composers intentions". The piece in
> >question was by Eric Ball and the band had been conducted by the
composer
> >on the day.
> >
> >There also cannot be the amount of disagreement shown by the placings of
> >Ransomes 1st and next to last. This is ludicrous by anybody's standards.
> >There are a number of adjudicators who are reknowned for their odd
> >adjudications and one of them was in action this week end. Guess who? I
> >agree that the basis of the Swiss system is better but removing the top
and
> >bottom positions and aggregating the middle three removes the exterme
> >reactions. I was not attached to any band and my comments are entirely
> >impartial.
> >
> >PS I would be pleased to know your name.
> >
> >Jeremy
> >
> > That is what
> >> happens if you have contests.  The winners think its great and most
> >others
> >> think the judges are stupid and they could do better.
> >>
> >> I may be on my own on this but I think it is a far better system..we
know
> >> what each judge thinks about each performance.
> >>
> >> I agree that there were some very unexpected placings ( YBS being one
of
> >> them) but have you spoken to Geoffrey Brand?  He must have found
> >something
> >> offensive with the performance.  I'm not saying that I agree with him
but
> >he
> >> was paid to give his opinion and that is the one that gives the
result.
> >>
> >> Nige Beasley
> >>
> >>
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