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Martin Taylor wrote: ...snip... > My own take on this is that I've heard players, particularly young players, > suffering from exactly the problem that Trond Otto Berg describes. I emphasise > the young players because of course it's a particularly pernicious error to > overstretch the young player and perhaps destroy his confidence: but the results > of adult amateurs trying to double unwisely (no pun intended, Jeremy) can also > be pretty appalling - in my view, it depends on the player, and has quitre as > much to do with physical capabilities (at least in the brass world) as with > musicality. ...snip... > The way I see it, professionals (and yes, I'm sure we would all seek to aspire > to professional musical standards) do what they must to earn their bread, and > I'm not qualified to offer them advice. The amateur's priorities are different, > though, and he/she needs to think carefully before attempting something that may > adversely affect their playing. > > Any (constructive) comments? Experience tells me that doubling trumpet and cornet can bring a positive benefit to both instruments, assuming a thoughtful approach. I'm afraid that my experience doesn't stretch to bigger instruments where the problems may be more acute, but it was the trumpet versus cornet argument which began this particular thread. Some points: Musculature: It seems to be important to play fairly regularly on both instruments (no, only one at a time :-)) in order to avoid becoming a cornet player who sometimes dabbles with the trumpet, or vice versa, so that the embouchure, diaphragm, tongue and brain (yes!) become familiar with the swop. Learning about the very different physical approaches to each instrument in turn helps a player to understand what they have to do in order to produce a good cornet or trumpet tone. Learning beats not learning every time. The embouchure is just a set of muscles; although we develop them for our specific purpose their ownership isn't exclusive to cornet players. If playing the trumpet uses the same set of muscles as the cornet, exercise will be most likely to make them stronger, if it uses a different set of muscles then where is the problem? In terms of what those muscles do, playing cornet and trumpet are relatively similar activities compared to the function of these muscles when talking, eating, kissing, yawning, drinking through a straw, whistling, blowing out candles etc. etc. etc. (Pause for involuntary facial activity...) Blowing: In general, cornet players blow within the natural resistance of the instrument while trumpet players tend to blow beyond it. Once the player has grasped the significance of this from his experience of doubling s/he becomes a more flexible musician. So many contemporary band scores expect an enormously wide range of tone colours from players, ranging from the traditional 'dolce' solo to the massive sound of an orchestral trumpet section by way of the big band, often in space of a few bars. A piece like Philip Wiby's 'Jazz' would fall flat if players didn't adapt their playing styles to the demands of the music. Could there be a better way of learning to play like a trumpet than actually doing it for yourself? Piccolo Trumpet: The trumpet isn't just one instrument - trumpeters turn up on gigs with bags full of kit. The piccolo trumpet requires a much more cornet-like approach to articulation, breath support and tonal control. Trumpeters who don't play cornet often don't learnt to soft tongue - essential for the picc, and useful for lots of other things... Sustaining power: Anyone who has played cornet on the front row of a band and blown their b------s off for two hours at a time, twice a week, every week will have a huge advantage over a trumpet player who hasn't. 'The Trumpet Shall Sound' is a piece of cake (even with the DC) compared to many solo cornet parts but how often do you hear a trumpeter struggle to reach the end? Again, being a cornet player has helped my trumpet playing. Vibrato (oh no not again...): trumpet players learn to use different types of vibrato from cornet players, including none, slightly sharp vib. (eg. for some French music) and slow flat vib. (for jazz). Some cornet players (no names!) only ever use one. All of these can add to the cornet player's palette, and once again the best way to learn to play in those styles is to experience them first hand. History: playing the cornet like a trumpet isn't new - see La Forza del Destino arr. Frank Wright: "Quasi tromba", for example. Martin's last point was that doubling was OK for professional players but possibly not amateurs. I'm not a professional player by any stretch of the imagination but have been playing trumpet and cornet with no nasty side effects for twenty odd years: on the front row of a championship section band no-one complains that I sound like a trumpet player, and as first trumpet in the local amateur orchestra I can still upset the fiddles at twenty paces... As a conductor of a band I don't discourage my younger players from playing trumpet in local/school orchestras or swing bands - the knowledge that it gives them makes my job easier. I've yet to come across a case of anyone damaging their embouchure by doubling, provided that they do it on a fairly regular basis. That's possibly enough points... Trond Otto Berg suggested that by doubling we risked becoming 'Jack(s) of all Trades'; This is the opposite of the truth as I know it. So many great players (Willie Lang, Maurice Murphy, Jim Shepherd, James Watson, Rod Franks...the list goes on and on) have clearly been masters of both instruments. So I say "no, Trond Otto, by not doubling we put unecessary restrictions on achieving our musical potential". Amen David Lancaster Cornet player Trumpet player -- unsubscribe or receive the list in digest form, mail a message of 'help' to listserver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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