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Re: BORROWED PLAYERS

To: <brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: BORROWED PLAYERS
From: "Janet Lewis"<Janet.Lewis@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:08:11 GMT
Priority: low
Reply-to: brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

     In our band we have been charged extortionate amounts of money as we 
     are a championship section band and people perceive that we have money 
     available.  The truth is we have no money as we are not sponsored and 
     rely on money from concerts etc for our revenue.  Once borrowed 
     players "dip" into this pot the band suffers.  Accordingly we now have 
     a fixed rate for borrowed players and this is communicated to them 
     upon booking.

     On a personal nature, if a band has asked me to play and some of their 
     players have help my band out previously and not "ripped" us off then 
     I charge a very small amount for petrol only.

     We tried a reciprocal arrangement with one of the local unsponsored 
     bands who were also struggling for money, whereby the players got paid 
     petrol money only and neither band had to take too much money out of 
     the concert fee.

     Regards


     Janet
     Besses


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Subject: BORROWED PLAYERS 
Author:  <brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> at smtpgate
Date:    24/06/99 13:55


Hi everyone!

On the subject of borrowed players and expenses, do bands have set amounts 
which they are prepared to pay out to a borrowed player?

Do you arrange with a dep before the job how much you are prepared to pay?

Is there a going rate?

Should soloists arrange their own deps and pay them from their retainer?

I always find this difficult with bands, how much do you ask for? You never 
know if you are asking too much or if a band would have paid more. I always 
feel really awkward especially when bands try and avoid paying you. (But I 
remember and when they ask again I'm always too busy!) Having said that I 
will try and help out local lower section bands whenever I can and I don't 
expect to be paid.

I would find it easier if when a band booked you they arranged the fee with 
you, or had a standard fee plus travelling expenses.

I would be interested to hear what other people think? Well I'm always 
interested in other peoples thoughts. Do other people find this an awkward 
subject?

Sam
Flugel@BT Band


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