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Re: National Finals - Disqualification

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Rowland <kprowland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Brass Band Forum <brass-band@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 22 July 1999 20:30
Subject: National Finals - Disqualification


> I guess those "in the know" or with access to the BB today will be aware
of
> the hot news.  But for those who haven't, here it is.
>
> It is reported that Desford and Redbridge have been refused entry in the
> Championship section and Kibworth from the 1st section.  It is alleged
that
> the offical entry forms failed to arrive by the closing date of 3rd July
> 1999.
>
> Apparantly, the rules of competition clearly state that if the required
> entry form is not received by the date specified then the next highest
> placed band <may> be invited.  Whilst the letter of the law would seem to
> have been applied, it does seem to me to be red tape at it's worst.  Can
> there not be room for discretion if a particular case demands it?
>
> I guess such rules are made to stop any band consistently being late hence
> the emphasis on the word <may>.  I am not aware if any of these bands have
> been guilty in previous years so I cannot comment on that.
> All  business and life decisions require a degree of discretion within
laid
> down paramaters and I wonder whether this should have been used in this
case
> or do list members consider that "rules is rules!"
>
> If these are just isolated cases then I feel that the decision  has
slightly
> devalued the competition.  I wonder whether some bands might just not
bother
> in the future if men in grey suits apply rules so strictly.
>
> Of course, an easy answer would have been for the bands in question to
have
> returned the required entry forms earlier.  They all qualified a few
months
> ago so why leave it to the last week when the rules are so apparantly
clear?
>
> A little food for thought and I am sure there will be a bit of healthy
> debate.
>
> Incidentally, it is reported that the replacement bands are Glossop Old,
> Aveley & Newham (championship) and Nottingham City Transport (1st
section).
>
> Keith Rowland
> Clacton SA
>
>
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Why bother?

Brass band competitions seem to major upon burocratic red tape rather than
playing excellence.  In my experience those who cannot play whinge, and
those who can maintain a dignified silence!  After all, who on the
respective regional committees has actually done the business?  They are by
and large 'wannabees', they rely on other people's endeavours for their own
personal glory.

I have and still do compete at all levels - but I have also served on the
regional committee and I have seen at first hand the simplistic beaurocratic
method of dealing with bands.  Whilst we need these volunteers to do the
work we should not allow them to  have a positive influence.  The solution
is for the top bands to take a more active participation and perhaps then we
might see a more sensible solution.  After all a fourth section delegate is
far more likely to see things in a different light than say one from Dyke or
Brighouse.  The lower section bands certainly have a place but if you look
at the regional committees their influnce in disproportionate to the section
as a whole!!
>


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