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Re: National Finals - Disqualification

Simmshouse@xxxxxxx wrote:

> I don't know who you are Mr Todd, but I thoroughly disagree with you!

Ok, everybody has their opinions.

> In 1995 we were lucky enough (I say lucky because it's all down to the
> adjudicators opinion) to win the fourth section at the Northern Areas and win
> a place to Wembley.

Well done.

> Approximately two weeks before the deadline Alan Hope telephoned all the
> bands involved to remind them that the deadline was approaching fast, so that
> any bands who had not completed the paperwork still had ample time to do so.

That's what he told you ;-)

> (Who cares therefore whether he's got big fog lights on his car?)  We have
> always found Alan to be very fair and a very approachable man. He has all the
> bands interests at heart.

Maybe he has, but not this time.

> In my opinion it is an achievement in obtaining a place in the finals and so
> I cannot see how anyone would let the deadline pass, are these bands really
> so blase, that they think all they need to do is turn up on the day and take
> part.

My point was it is so easy to do. With so many events to arrange, contests to
enter, players to chase, etc. etc. a secretary can confuse one entry date with
another, think they still have plenty of time left to get the entry form in. I hope
that these three bands get their legal case together, and force these guys to
change their mind - it's shocking that they can get away with it. Some rules need
to be upheld - for example, registration. But an entry form is easy to forget, and
a simple phone call would have solved it. This must have happened before - and
common sense has solved it in the past.

> A lot of organisation goes into these events and if the bands concerned can't
> be bothered then the organisers are right to abide by the rules and select
> the next band for a place.

That's so wrong - it's not a case of not being bothered, it's a simple error by the
secretary. The bigger error is the decision to disqualify these bands.

> Over the years we've put a lot of time and effort into our regional finals
> and so the chance to actually appear in the nationals meant an awful lot to
> us. OK so we're only a fourth section band but we still deserved to be there.
> (I for one had to play that year tanked up on painkillers with a slipped disc
> in my spine, and I passed out before I went on stage - but the win made it
> worth while!)

It's always worth it - but these three bands put in a lot of work to qualify, only
for the NCC to take that away for next to no reason. They now feel that every rule
must be adhered to. What does happen when one of the top two or three bands make
one error in administration ?

> We can appreciate that bands may have administrative lapses from time to
> time, but surely this is down to the committee members to make sure that this
> does not happen.

How many committees share the administration ?? Or check it, or know when the
entrys have to be in ??

> For the record I would point out that these are simply my personal
> observations and not necessarily those of the Kirkby Lonsdale Brass Band
> (although I'm sure the majority would agree!)

These are my opinions, and probably the opinions of the majority of sensible people
who want common sense to prevail. Where does it all end ??

> Jacque
> Kirkby Lonsdale Brass Band (temp first horn, I'm trying to get my solo seat
> back)

John Todd
Longannet Colliery (Cowdenbeath)


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