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Re: Pedals fingering

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Subject: Re: Pedals fingering
From: Ian Phillipps <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:07:44 +0100
In-reply-to: <381183DB.43A31E36@xtra.co.nz>; from "Adrian J Raven" on 23 Oct 1999 at 22:46:13
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On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 at 22:46:13 +1300, Adrian J Raven wrote:

> You can basically use the 4th valve as an "octave key" on the pedals, but only

> F -   1+2+4
> E -   2+3+4
> Eb - 1+3+4
> D -  1+2+3+4
> Db - 1+3+4+5    this is the case on my horn anyway (5th is a flat whole tone,

Don't confuse "low note needing 4th valve" with "pedal".  None of the
above are pedal notes - they're normal 2nd harmonics, just on longer
lengths of tube. A 'pedal' note in the context of a brass instrument
(not organ music nor harmony theory) is to my way of thinking a
'fundamental' note an octave below the normal 'low written C', i.e. the
instrument is a half-wave long.

> C - Open, as normal

This is the first (highest) 'pedal' note - it's quite different in
character from the notes above. I know I have difficulty getting it to
match the timbre of the immediate register above (on BBb, euph or
'French' horn). Not surprising, when the length of tube is suddenly
halved.

BTW - I've tried a trumpet, and the pedal note, although soundable, is
wildely out of tune (like around a tone or so off). Are cornet or tenor
horn pedals in tune?

Ian

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References:
- Pedals fingering
  - From: ANDREW CATTANACH
- Re: Pedals fingering
  - From: Adrian J Raven

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