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Nick and Dyke - was Re: James Watson

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Subject: Nick and Dyke - was Re: James Watson
From: "Ed Horn" <horn_ed@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:59:57 GMT
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Phil, Ewan,

Thanks for the very interesting comments about Nick, James, the mainstream
banding activity,
I amend first the IMHO crucial parts of your earlier mails, just not to
loose people joining the debate, and insert my humble opinion afterwards.


My opinion:
Although I grew up with mainstream banding for the last 20 years and
listening/talking/... to the big names, I must admit James Watson is right
about opening the band scene to the "outside-world". We should indeed
prevent brassband kills it self by sticking to its "traditions".
The only (fundamental) problem with it is James threw away, for some people
even totally destroyed, what had been built over the past decades before he
came in. Dyke had always set the musical standards from the
Shepherd-McCann-Webster era, and that he surely altered totally. E.g. one
can not say Baker is in line with the former 3 names. So its not a surprise
Phil is right when he says nobody knows about the names of the Dyke players,
why should we care about them? Not that they arent good players, far off,
but...
Also I wouldnt be to sure not to "go backwards thinking to the 80s". If a
band can achieve tomorrow the Dyke 80s sound model, theyll be the best in
the world without any doubt. Or does one think 1985 are the middle ages,
its only 15 years ago.

If Ewan talks about titles, he shouldnt only look to the nationals, but
include the Open, European, concerts, recordings,... and then its clear
Dyke with mainly David King did not have a "gap" at all.

Phil says "Nick's challenge is to get the band playing to the exceptionally
high standard that the band had at it's greatest time". Now thats really a
killer for me: great, but why doesnt he take this opportunity on with
Fodens, why doesnt he try to make Fodens the Dyke of the 80s? Is it
impossible because of the Fodens players, committee or whatever reason,
and/or has he a better chance with the current Dyke? I do not believe Dyke
has an Alan on sop so ...?  I dont think Dykes bass line is better then at
Fodens, and so on.
Well of course he can take the best ones with him, and rumors then go some
would follow him?
Why are you taking this so lighthearted Phil? :-)
Why doesnt Nick or somebody else give a clear message about the reasons
behind it all, now one may be producing nothing but false stories because of
dead silence, and it does not improve our image.
Even the Foden's site is very very quiet.


One off us? (BIIIIIG laugh) I am not earning a couple of 10.000  a year
with banding!

Cheers,
Edal


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