Personally I can't do "ta ta ka" at all, so have to "ta ka ta". This tends to break down after a few bars if I'm not careful... perhaps the "ta ta ka" approach, once learned, avoids this? Anyway, my method works for me as far as I need it to. I'd be happier if I could single-tongue a bit faster, of course... Martin Taylor BBb Bass, Wantage Silver --