Some of the contents of the pages on this site are Copyright © 2016 NJH Music | [Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: re: F horn in Brass Bands
Very good point Alastair.... why go backwards.......It's established......... Mark Freeh (NYC) >Alastair Wheeler wrote: >In other words, they've been tried and >discarded. In fact, all sorts of things were tried and found wanting in >the 19th century, Kees........... You should listen to the band from in front then. Kees, with all due respect, you couldn't be more wrong. French horns don't blend well except in certain pieces of music... for instance... Erik Leidzen's "Pressing On" which begins with a fanfare for horns. That would be great. Tell me what is wrong with the brass band sound as it is? You mean we have been doing it all wrong for 150 years? I love the french horn. When you arrange or compose, you do it with certain instruments in mind. You can't just change the concept of scoring by playing the parts on different instruments. As a solo instrument with brass band the french horn works well. I arranged the Strauss Horn Concerto No. 1 for River City Brass Band (who use only french horns by the way). Another wonderful piece I would like to hear with brass band, and a piece I began arranging, is Concertpiece (Conzertstuck in F major, op.86) by Robert Schumann for 4 french horns. The reason I stopped, was that I couldn't make up my mind if I should use 4 french horns in addition to 3 tenor horns in the band. It limits the amount of performaces significantly but would be my preference. I would rather hear Mozart's Rondo with french horn rather than euphonium any day. Vinter's Hunter's Moon is another good example... much better on french horn then tenor horn. I would like to hear especially written music with a section of french horns either in addition to or in place of tenor horns.... but why destroy the tradidition brass band sound which is what we were all attracted to in the first place.. and I might add that it was also the (most, if not all) composer's and arrangers intent when they wrote it. Can you really picture starting "Journey Into Freedom" with french horns? How clumsy !!! Stop trying to fix something that isn't broken. You know there are french horn lists among others.... do you think they are discussing using tenor horns instead of french horns? Not a chance..... I know there are other composers and arrangers on this list. It would be interesting to hear from them about this as well. Brian? Bill? You too Adrian........ Mark Freeh (New York City) **************************************************************** On 30 April Adrian Drover <saxhorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 28 Apr, Cameron Mabon <cmabon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > French horns simply could not fit into such a sound. > > That's true ;-) > > Adrian > I've been following this discussion for some time now and I have to say that I played in several Brass bands during my formative years. As a professional educator and Hornist I feel that my sound did not detract from the brass band sound - it blended in well and at times added a new tonal quality which was very useful in developing the Organ-like timbre of ( especially ) hymns and slow pieces. This was especially true when I was playing 1st or 2nd horn parts, where the parts are not usually played with strong conviction or tone. The French Horn sound really filled these parts out. I also found it a nice effect to double the Eupho parts to round off the Eupho sound in similar tunes. If the Horn is played correctly it will fit into any combination of instruments ( Horn players are very sensitive to intonation and timbre problems ) and will only add to the band's tonal colour. As this was a long time ago and my participation in brass bands was rewarded by being banned from contesting, etc ( rules, rules ...) I ceased to play Horn in them and went on to almost all the other instruments, which I approach with the same style as my Horn playing. I hope this adds to the general discussion. Kees Dogger, Conductor Biarnsdale Citizen's Band. Dogger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Kees & Michelle Dogger -- unsubscribe or receive the list in digest form, mail a message of 'help' to listserver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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