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koopke
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quation about breathing

Post by koopke »

ok i wanna ask you guys if its important how you take a breath while you playing...
i mean some1 told me that theres 2 way to take breating one from the back and one from the belli... (he say's that from the back you get more air or somthing like that anyway i want to know if there is any advantage
to take abreath from the belly and if its realy metter ...
i dont know maby from the belly is better for a spical sound or somthing like that
cuz i tried both of the ways and i didnt notice any different except in sound but i dont know if its me or its should be that way...
(by the way i"m playing on trombone )
(and sorry that my english is bad.. i know... )
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Ray Woods
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Regarding Breathing whilst playing

Post by Ray Woods »

I was always taught, and all text and music books I have ever read tell you to breath using the Belly. By sticking your belly out, you lower the diaphagm (the muscle tissue which stops your lungs from falling into your bowels) allowing the lungs to expand. You can then consider yourself like a balloon, blown up, with your throat as the air outlet, and you diaphagm muscle providing the pressure allowing airflow.

The benfits of diaphragm breathing are that a much more controlled and continuous airflow can be sustained, even when the last of the air is expended. By breathing using lungs alone, the airflow starts to get shakey as the supply gets low (I am assuming that when you say 'using you back' you mean using your lungs, raising your shoulders, stretching the intercostal muscles etc).

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Ray

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Johan
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Post by Johan »

Hi friends,

Tip!!

Run arround your block a couple of times. The way you breath after that is the best way. Open mouth, low in the belly and yes: using you lower back as well. Try it and after that: try to remember it while playing.
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Post by jp_euph »

You can not get air in your stomach - or in your back....... the movement of the stomach and the back is to help enable the lungs to expand more. when i inhale i use '3 stage breathing' think of moving the stomach, then the back and then let the chest rise.......as you exhale the chest should be the last area to deflate.

for the stomach moving - try lying on the floor with a heavy book ob your stomach..... as you breath in make the book rise steaily.

for the back....... get on all 4's make sure you have a streight back and concentrate on your back - if you relax your stomach, it will also naturally stick out when u breath due to gravety.


Another good breathing techneque -

say 'Oooohhh AAaaaarrrr'

then do the mouth action for ohhhhh aaarrrrrr without vocalising it

then breath in while oing the mouth action.........

you should still be able to hear (ohhhh arrrrr) as the air rushes in through your changing mouth position.

you should feel more full of air with this techneque.



hope this is of help!
Louise0502
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breathing

Post by Louise0502 »

So,

I am a 15 year old euphonium player and i've been told that i need to get more power and a bigger sound and (being the intelligent person that i am!) i figured out that to do this, i need to improve my (already above average) lung capacity. Is exercise the way to do this, as i do not exercise very often. Is there anyone out there who has tried this and has seen the benefits of exercise on lung capacity?

Louise
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traosb
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Breathing exercise

Post by traosb »

I once had a teacher who had some very weird ideas, but they worked for me. To increase lung capacity and breathing ability I took a sheet of A4 paper and took a deep breath, breathing out forcefully through the mouth in order to hold the paper against a wall as long as possible. As you practise doing this you can gradually increase the amount of time for which you keep the paper suspended against the wall before it falls to the floor. Hope its of some use.
astrolabe
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Breathing Tools

Post by astrolabe »

One of the things that I use is a 5 Litre bag (respirator bag) from a medical supply store. I fashioned a tube to enter the bag that will fit my mouthpiece. I start with just trying to blow up the bag without the mouthpiece. Then after a few months I placed the mouthpiece in the rig and tried again. I can fill the bag without the mouthpiece, but I am still trying to fill it with the mouthpiece in place.

BTW: I am a cornet player.
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Post by tigger908 »

I read in a bodybuilding magazine you can increase the size of your rib cage by gently stretchng it usnig stright arm pullovers with a little weight. I wouldn't recomend this ;)

I also heared form a friend in band that his brass teacher when he was young had his students blow up hot water bottles to improve the power of their lungs.

Tigger
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